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Manitsky



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:08 am    Post subject: Tuning??!! Reply with quote

I can't seem to find a way to tune the piano. Is that possible? What is it currently tuned to? 440? 442? It seems a bit sharp to me, and it's an issue for a number of (obvious) reasons. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Are you using it as a VST plugin in another program? Does it sound sharp to you in standalone mode?

Pianissimo is tuned to A440. There's not a piano tuning feature at this point, but that's something that could possibly be included in a future update.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

You could test it with something like this http://www.aptuner.com
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Manitsky



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using it as a VST in FL Studio. I layered it with another piano which also claims to be A440, but they definitely didn't match. I tuned the other piano up. I'll try the program the other poster suggested, and test it. Thanks!
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Manitsky



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I have focused on this again, and used an external tuner to test it. The Korg M1LE piano is at A 440. This piano is SHARP!!!! Lame, lame, lame. It's a really cheap way to make an instrument sound bright, which is fine, because you get better reviews, etc., that way. But come on. You need to allow us to tune it. Can I get my money back on this?
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Vibrant Audio



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can confirm that Pianissimo plays sharp. I used a couple of tuners including aptuner that Eric suggested. All notes show anywhere from 6 to 13 cents sharp no matter if playing as standalone or vsti and no matter which preset is used.

I calibrated the tuners using a 440Hz sine wave tone from two different tone generators. The tuners are right on.

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Interestingly, most pianos are showing slightly sharp when played. Some more than others. The key strike is sharp, then they quickly settle closer to correct pitch. TruePianos Emerald and Diamond presets are the closest I've found in my tests. Even other TruePianos presets are further off.

I'll test some of the even more advanced sample-based pianos that I have and report back. I'll ask my piano tuner his opinion as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I am the sound designer of Pianissimo. I can confirm that the samples are about 4-6 cents sharp. The samples are at the exact pitch of the original piano they were taken from. This was unintentional and will be fixed in a future update.
Also, the samples are less sharp in the lower range of the piano and more sharp near the top. This is due to a tuning technique known as "octave stretching". You can learn more about octave stretching from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_tuning#Stretched_octaves
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